That was definitely a huge problem. Both candidates were intensely disliked by a large number of voters. None of this, however, justifies betraying the fundamental principles America was founded on.
I would have preferred a ham sandwich over Trump. Trump is the worst president we've elected in the last 200 years. He's dangerous. There's a reason 50 retired military officers signed a letter saying that Trump was unfit for office.
Put party aside for a moment, and unlike Trump, think about what values actually make America great.
I'm not so sure about that. Clinton, as a candidate, had huge weaknesses and a lot of baggage, for sure -- but we didn't get to see Bernie's weaknesses play out later as we did with Clinton. Calling it a sure thing is quite a stretch here. Hell, the polls said Clinton was a sure thing. But she wasn't.
Yeah, the billionaire businessman is definitely gonna crack down on big businesses, right? This makes zero sense. Other points:
- NAFTA is probably more of the same "we're gonna bring back those old manufacturing jobs" narrative, which doesn't seem likely at all to me. The robots and self driving trucks are coming, we need to adapt to that reality, not wall ourselves off in tariffs and trade restrictions to pretend the future doesn't exist.
- oil / gas is irrelevant, focus on incentivizing solar and other renewables. I don't see any point in ripping apart our nature reserves when gas won't even matter in 50 years.. but our national parks and lands have to last forever.
- term limits on Congress, would love to see this, but I think it has a 0% chance because the people voting for it will not benefit
- five-year ban on lobbyists, I am fine with this but Citizens United is the real problem, not this.
I could go on.. I'd say 80% of the stuff Trump has planned is either ridiculously shortsighted or outright harmful. The guy also has a very bad temperament for a leader and sets off so many red flags for me. Like I said, I vote on leadership most of all, and Trump is an awful leader. Capricious, vindictive, cruel, cronyism, nepotism, won't ever admit he made a mistake, etc. I can go on. I mean just look at his portrait. Every other president in recent memory looks happy and proud, but Trump is angrily scowling.
I actually want politicians that try to reach a common consensus on decisions, rather than ramrodding through extreme plans with little forethought or discussion. Yes, this may result in slower progress overall, but that's why the political system was designed by the framers with checks and balances to begin with. You'll reach decisions that are acceptable to "most".
That said I wasn't exactly a fan of Clinton. She was a politician's politician. But again: I'd literally vote for a ham sandwich before I voted for Trump because I consider him not just unpalatable but dangerous to American democracy.
Not according to Ruben Andersson, an anthropologist at the London School of Economics and Political Science and the author of a book titled "Illegality, Inc.: Clandestine migration and the business of bordering Europe."
For one thing, Andersson said, walls tend to be built for domestic political reasons by governments that want to be seen to be doing something about migration. For another, it seems that where there's a wall, there's a way. In other words, people who want to cross a border badly enough will find creative ways to circumvent a wall -- even if it means taking greater risks by crossing elsewhere.
"These fences are not solving anything," Andersson said. "Numbers are not going down. People will find a way."
You might as well take all that $25 billion and burn it. I say we should use that wall money to build bridges, roads, and other essential infrastructure that benefits Americans.
I agree with you 100% here @giorgiog and I will go this far -- if Trump manages to make Medicare extend unconditionally to every person in America, as universal simple healthcare, I will go on record saying that I'll vote for his re-election. And I promise I will, too. That is so important that I'm willing to overlook everything else.
Seriously? Do you have children, Nathan? I apologize for asking, but please answer me: do you have children?
The current plan we're using, with minor tweaks to continue doing the things that are effective, and dropping the things that are less effective. Our immigration policies are already working quite well, and growing goverment to add more bureaucracy isn't a good idea.
Incorrect. It was written to provide a list of actions any American can take to make sure their voices are heard. Just refer to the bottom 1/3 of the post with the bullet points, and read them.
This is also incorrect, and the assumption here is quite telling. I'll leave understanding that up to the reader.
We have some serious problems in America, and #1 among those is the huge (and growing) disparity between the rich and poor.
Please watch this.
I don't think pointing out that a remembrance day holocaust statement from the white house that doesn't mention Jews is in incredibly poor taste, particularly when the statements from previous administrations -- one republican, one democrat -- absolutely did. "All Lives Matter" is some bullshit.
This is not hard to understand. Vulnerable groups -- houses on fire -- need more help than I do as a rich white man.
I'd make the same argument anti-gun control proponents like to make -- absolutely nothing about a US-mexico wall is going to stop any of that. It'll just make America $25 billion poorer, with exactly the same number of illegal immigrants. Let's spend that on infrastructure projects that matter, not performance art.
The point is that they explicitly left those countries. Likely to seek a better future, more rights and opportunities for their daughters and sons. We have freedom of religion in this country, and always have. Get used to it.
Well, if we can provide citations, links to reasonable sources, perhaps everyone can learn a bit about the issues and have a more nuanced position on their issues. That's the goal, for me anyway..
Also thanks everyone for keeping it (mostly, cough David) civil here.