Sex, Lies, and Software Development

I see denial, people.

sometimes a video explains stuff best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhTxRssxfuIfeature=PlayListp=4E737540D920CEE8playnext=1playnext_from=PLindex=3

@Jamison, the problem is that the prude is ‘easily offended’ by things of a ‘sexual nature’, it doesn’t concern the latter- but the former is quite obvious of one’s lack of being open minded about the subject. Please read the definition of prude again, and no offense.

Hmmm 2 questions:

To the heteros: would you wirk for a gay porn Site?

@Jeff: was the porn topic on purpose or just am bad example to use in place of any subject people personally habe a Problem with?

@martin
To the heteros: would you wirk for a gay porn Site?

Yes. Some friends of me are gay. Their choice.
Are you trying to say: It’s more immoral to work for a gay site?
Then: How prude is the USA?

and @jeff

Your thinking of making the world better…
Show me how you are doing it. Neither this log nor stackoverflow makes the world a better place. People still starving in afrika, today more people are killed in iraq then were killed under Saddam Hussein.

There is nothing you can be proud of. Sex doesn’t kill people. It makes some people feel better, other get money. Do you think your blog does people make feel good? Do you think stackoverflow does pay the people who contibute code, and do the work for you? You are just building a business model where you don’t contribute the work which is used by other people. You get at some point paid (advertising) for the work of other people who are solving other peoples issues. Isn’t that more immoral?

@martin
To the heteros: would you wirk for a gay porn Site?

Yes. Some friends of me are gay. Their choice.
Are you trying to say: It’s more immoral to work for a gay site?
Then: How prude is the USA?

and @jeff

Your thinking of making the world better…
Show me how you are doing it. Neither this log nor stackoverflow makes the world a better place. People still starving in afrika, today more people are killed in iraq then were killed under Saddam Hussein.

There is nothing you can be proud of. Sex doesn’t kill people. It makes some people feel better, other get money. Do you think your blog does people make feel good? Do you think stackoverflow does pay the people who contibute code, and do the work for you? You are just building a business model where you don’t contribute the work which is used by other people. You get at some point paid (advertising) for the work of other people who are solving other peoples issues. Isn’t that more immoral?

@jamison Why do people keep using the word prude like it was something horrible?

Well, ask the author of the title. He used the term to distance himself of it, so he’s the one who has problems with it.

@gadthrawn

I’m european and actually so work (remotely) in tue adult industry. I’m am SysSadmin so mysql Main concern in a few words are Service level agreements. I couldn’t care less about the content after all it’s just 1-nur people having sex. Mysql question about the Gay porn wasn’t about wether one has Gay friends but I found that in peoples minds porn ist just hetero porn hence the question.

What so IN Fell my Patents? I ensure that people Fan masturbate so my girlfriend, soon to come son and me so have something to eat and the people wanking off at least don’t have ideas like shooting each other or run around with a bomb belt - so much for making the World am better place :slight_smile:

Did I mention that typing on an iPhone ist a Major pain?

Dude…you look like an idiot way up there on that high horse.

And I’m willing to say that I wouldn’t work for someone who would judge me negatively because of it.

Same here. I prefer by far working with open minded people.

There is nothing illegal or wrong with porn. In fact, porn is making the world a better place for many people.

But you have a point when you say we should not take a job we’re uncomfortable with. For example, I would say NO to a company that believes in software patents.

I believe you are right. Porn web sites has somehow ruined me and my life (don’t ask how). As a programmer I will not accept such those nice and generous offers. By the way, porn sites are not the only ones that may have supreme feat of software engineering. Just look at the lots of cool websites that everybody uses and likes (i.e youtube, facebook, flickr and so on) created and maintained by brilliant minds.

you are right in only one point: it is your problem.

Over the last posts you showed a quite closed mind.

Programmers should speak englih -what the fuck- they should better speak the language of their customers.

Programmer does not need to understnd math - only script kiddies don’t need math

Porn is bad - Why are so much people enjoying it? You have never explained why porn has no value, but your personal opinion has.

by the way, why do you find the dolls in the image above sexy? In love with barbie?

By what hypocrisy do we have porn being one of the biggest draws on the Internet, but no one is allowed to work on it? If anybody cringed at me for working an adult site, I’d ask, OK, so you’ve never glanced at a single pixel of the stuff in your entire life?

Far from contrasting the two, I consider sexuality to be emsynonymous/em with noble, selfless work for the good of humanity. By all means, break sexuality out of the 15th century campaign of shame and give people a reason to accept their sexual selves, and promote some AIDS-safety and condom awareness, maybe even cure a few psychologically damaging hang-ups while you’re at it! I’m pro-sex enough to insist that sex should be considered no less a wholesome necessity than eating and breathing.

I state clearly on my resume that I’m willing to work with adult-oriented businesses, and I haven’t seen backlash from it yet. In fact, the kind of person who would consider what I was doing to be wrong just might also be the kind of person I wouldn’t like to work with anyway. Adult businesses are work to me like any other, no more nor less.

On the general subject of ethics, yes, there’s jobs I won’t work because of ethics. Anything involving spamming, scamming, misleading the public, or partnering with a company which has inethical practices. Other commenters have indicated this above me.

Half the reason I ditched cubicle jobs for the freelance wilderness is because I wanted to implement my own ethics instead of some corporation’s.

You americans really need to stop being such prudes. Really.

I’ve done work in the adult industry while I was studying but wouldn’t again. Morality wise, I like looking at pictures of naked women, I really do, kudos to the creators of the Internet for making it so easy.

However the degrading nature of a lot of internet porn I find physically sickening. I don’t believe consent is truly possible for a lot of it. For similar reasons I also wouldn’t work in defence, low-doc personal finance or tobacco.

The second reason is that the industry really lacks class, the websites are tacky and horrible. I wouldn’t work in used car sales, mobile phone accessories(ringtones, games etc.) sports, online auctions, religion or politics for the same reason.

#1: THE INTERNET RUN ON PRON,IF THERE WAS NO PRON THEN THERE WOULD BE NO INTERNET

#2: THE PRON INDUSTRY IS A MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY IN THE USA.

#3: PRON SITES WHERE THERE LONG BEFORE codinghorror.

#4: AMERICANS WORKING AS PROGRAMMERS IN THE PRON INDUSTRY SHOULD BE PROUD OF THEM SELF.

#5:Naked chicks, they make me go click, click, click, clickclick, clickclickclickclickclickclick…

My experience is different albeit same , i have worked for a MLM (Multi Level Marketing) company whose websites offered me to experiment with tree data structure and loads of other cool stuff along with thousands of users offering scaling issues as well as regular updates etc.
But i still remember , people making profit in front of me but i was never ready to take a penny out of the business , the people who understands the term MLM knows that setting yourself at the root meant to be getting loads of money. But i would never find courage to do this cheating.
I remember when that company run off (As it usually happens) , the people used to come to me about their money lolz

Jeff wrote: On the contrary. I believe code has the power to change the world. Is your code changing the world for the better or for the worse? That’s the question.

If that was your point, you could’ve made it with any number of industries – weapons, RIAA, banks, warrentless wiretapping, gambling, political causes opposite to whatever you believe in, advertising, whatever.

I’m all for trying to lean on people to use their skills to make the world a better place, but I think that automatically assuming that adult content is incompatible with this (and certainly assuming that it’s a canonical example of badness) is one heck of a loaded and unwarranted assumption.