Why Is The System Idle Process Hogging All The Resources?

This thread is great, has me laughing my ass of for the last 35 minutes. No I don’t actually think people are stupid or anything. in fact i rather think people are smart until proven otherwise.

Anyway after several years of trying to educate people about very simple computer graphics i have come to the following conclusions:

  • Many users regard computers as a matter of faith, they do all sorts of things including reciting their favorite piece of the bible to the computer. Fine that’s how it is, try to stop it, this really helps you.

  • Drawing conclusions about things you don’t fully understand is dangerous, because its damn hard to get rid of that conclusion. So to become better it helps if you sometimes back down and realize you know nothing. In fact the more you do know the more certain you are you know nothing. This is also why most 18 year old know more than 5 year old even tough it might not be true (that does not however mean it can not be true in some particular case).

  • Just because 2 problems sound alike don’t mean they are caused by the same thing. There are several people here that are saying they have the same problem without even knowing its the one and same. Its not a simple question to answer theres several reasons for slowdowns.

Now i use computers for computing all day long (right now i use a 100 or so cpu’s at 99% non idle). And i have a pretty good feel for what slows computers down, it literary costs me bout a month every year. (time is money because we don’t live eternally, life being the most valuable commodity I have, seriously. All others pale in comparison).

First one must understand that the cpu’s you use are quite fast for a limited number of things. Unfortunately sometimes not fast enough, you could buy a faster one but it rarely helps in the way one would think. Yes I know you think your 1300$ computer is expensive and should be fast enough but it is neither.

Measuring performance on the merits of cpu speed is totally blind unfortunately that was what counts if you want to feel superior. For me the biggest problem is the main bus speed, this means I value the motherboard more than I value the cpu. Imagine having a sports car that is really fast its of no use if the roads are not paved. This is what usually happens the computer shifts its gear and waits for things to happen elsewhere because the speed of transfer to it is so slow. This slows he computer down but does not tax the cpu.

Now its fine if this all is in the memory that’s is pretty ok (tough not fast enough for me), but when the memory runs out computer goes to the next best thing the hard drive that’s even slower. So there’s a hierarchy of whats economical to use for speed.

Then there’s bad drivers, these KILL your speed the 1300$ is actually lump of useless metal for most parts when this happens. Usually getting more expensive tested parts helps here since they get better support. So the sad thing for some users is that the 1300$ computer is not very good. But you can’t fix this with little money alone.

Over this there’s all sorts of weird reasons even I sometimes attribute to faith buy joke. Some of them make sense afterward some don’t. And trust me a computer is pretty complex i doubt anybody knows how it REALLY works most of the time.

To get some help to your questions. Get someone who knows what they are doing take look at at the computer. But dont count on it helping you without actually doing something that might bust your economy. :wink:

And yes system idle process is not all idle, but it accounts stuff you wouldn’t avoid anyway. It may have bugs yes but its not the culprit its easy to get ahead and think it is. But something inside it MAY be indicating the culprit most likely not.

i was just wondering what happends when you turn the idle process off

i was just wondering what happends when you turn the idle process of

You can not! but if you could youd just probably kill the computer outright.

OMG… so many people reply talk offtopic nobody seems to know whats really happening. YES the idle processing doesont stear your cpu memory, yes it is completely useless and I give you the solution to your problem without knowing what you have on your computer. Read so many forums but didnt solve *hit… For your computer to stop whats it doing right now… blocking and working like a slow poke, UNINSTALL SPYWARE DOCTOR

Can I pls. close it…it truly is bugging. Whenever I look at my system 95% of the CPU memory is chewed up by the System Idle Process. It is a big big headache.

Will there be any problem if I shut it up!

My system idle is hogging up 95% of my ram causing my computer to run extremely sluggish. It literally makes 5 times the noise when computing and flicks the activity light by simply closing pages. Its a virus and ive tracked it back to smss.exe so far. I too am looking for a solution and if your reading this then youve read an hours worth of useless blog to get here. So close this window out and look elsewhere. DM IA

Wow. Out of all of that. I maybe got two ideas that could actually be the problem, out of the entire thing. useless thread, written by a whole bunch of computer savey bloggers, that never gives a real solution, Which they all somehow inheirently know, for if they had this problem, they would not be hammering the people not savey enough to fix it. I play Game on the computer, I don’t care how it works, as long as it works. But when it starts not to work, I look to the people who know much more then I for support. But when I get to a thread where people look like they know what they are talking about, read the entire thing, and am no better off fifteen minutes later, cause all it truly is, is the ramblings of geeks with nothing better to do, then state that, since their comp doesn’t have this problem, it doesn’t matter who else does. I don’t care what CPU is or does. It gets high, my comp gets slow. Simple, easy, and to the point. Now could someone please be productive, for the uneducated folk. Write a list of the top five or six things it could be. The solution to those problems. And maybe I will be able to run Star Craft again, lol. Seriously, Getting information that is actually privey to this problem fron this thread, is harder then E.T. for the Atari. Yes I am somewhat of a nerd myself. But one that has no understanding of how a comp should run.

Oh, and the Two things that I found actually helpful, for those who made it through the thread,a and didn’t catch.

  1. Old Drivers. Not my personal Problem, but it is definetly worth looking into.

  2. The new XP patch(or old one, IDK). I realised that these problem started the last time I updated my computer, and The S.I.P. problem also hit my brothers computer as well, after the patch. If it is windows, they better climb out of their cubicles and FIX IT!!!

I had this problem also on my HP Laptop. After trying lots of software fixes I found that the fan inside my laptop was not working correctly and the laptop was overheating.

Don’t know if it helps but it’s somethig to try.

Joe

Bloody hell! Wasting my time!
All you numb skulls rambling on without a decent solution!
Will the administrator stop these people from wasting our precious time? That’s on top of time wasted by system idle process!!!

Ok, so you say if System Idle is running at 95% it means the pc is doing nothing, but I still maintain the fact that this is an interruption which is VERY annoying. It makes NO sense for a pc to be doing very little and yet rev into jet mode as if it’s ready to lift off! You want to talk this Dvorak guy down, and say it’s normal and means the pc is doing nothing at the moment. Well, it is STILL a serious issue. Everything freezes, lags…it does take up to 30 minutes for it to chill out and sometimes you cannot even shut down. Everything is working on this pc, but this does happen from time to time-and like tonight, it’s happening over and over again! Instead of bitching about it, how about coming up with a solution and becoming the world’s hero?!

your problem is all that spyware and viruses in your task manager.

haha

Yep, even a year and a half later J.D. is a dope. I can safely say this even though I quit that magazine after less than a year into a subscription.

Another thing I have learned about computing is that Linux does not have a System Idle Process. Instead, they have other unique means to slow and hang my computer up.

The process daemon: You might want to search it up on the internet because I may remember seeing it as a trojan/virus

I saw where I could find the reason I keep getting a not resp… and after I’ve read everything, the only thing that I’ve gotten is that most of you think Dvorak is a prick that likes to be read and doesn’t know very much about computers. Maybe one of you super geeks can tell me why I get not responding so often on pureplay poker? My cpu is never running at more than 32% so that should take system idle out of play. I would like to know more about this pureplay poker if anyone knows.

I saw where I could find the reason I keep getting a not resp… and after I’ve read everything, the only thing that I’ve gotten is that most of you think Dvorak is a prick that likes to be read and doesn’t know very much about computers. Maybe one of you super geeks can tell me why I get not responding so often on pureplay poker? My cpu is never running at more than 32% so that should take system idle out of play. I would like to know more about this pureplay poker if anyone knows.

hello readers,

I was reading whole troubles and all dispointment over this whole page. Let me clear you guys that the Ide is a thread but good thead like few bactareas are good for us. the defination is listed below.

System Idle Process - You cannot end this process from Task Manager.
This process is a single thread running on each processor, which has the sole task of accounting for processor time when the system isn’t processing other threads. In Task Manager, expect this process to account for the majority of processor time.

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I simply updated my BIOS and the system idle issue is now history.

It looks like the majority of the problems are solved by Andy G’s comment and all the people that mentioned killing the automatic update process (search the thread for Andy G and Source: http:)

I’d just like to add this free program that works well speeding up my system.
Advanced System Care
http://www.download.com/Advanced-SystemCare-Free/3000-2086_4-10407614.html?tag=mncol

Please note, the program allows you to restore everything back to the way you had it if you don’t like what happened.

I recommend you just use the Maintain Windows section with the Privacy Sweep block unchecked, unless you DO want to delete your past browsing history.

You can try the other stuff if you want but check to make sure everything on your computer still works. I had a Python IDLE program blocked by a firewall change done through Diagnose System Security Defense option. Luckily the restore feature allowed me to get it back to normal.

Id like to actually know what my idle process does… is it the halt thingie or something else… i think something is wrong, i run vista on a macbook and its heating like hell, so much that my adaptors cord melted at one end (fixed it) then melted at the other end (fixed it again… hey im not gonna pay 130$ for a new adapter) then my adapter finally died (okay, ill buy that new adapter).
Yet whatever i do, my tasklist (or procexp list) doesnt look wrong, with procexp most of the time over 85. So im having doubts about that idle process cheating on me and doing things its not supposed to do. hmmmmm…

ok, so i read the explenation before the posts… and

chewing up 95 percent of the processor’s cycles, that’s normal: it simply means your CPU isn’t working very hard on anything at the moment

doesnt sound very right… a few days ago my computer was pretty quick, i could run 2 WoW accounts on this, and the few times i ctrl/alt/delete the idle thingie wasnt really doing anything, if i had nothing going, very very little CPU usage was being used… and things ran smoothly, as soon as the system idle process started acting up and taking allot of resources, things got very choppy and laggy, my computer slowed down allot. im not expert on computers by a long shot… but the system idle process is the only thing that is doing a lot of stuff.