This is a companion discussion topic for the original blog entry at: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2005/09/keyboarding-microsoft-natural-ergonomic-4000.html
Well, I guess it could be a little more black: http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/7727/ [but that one isn’t ergo, sadly].
Since you didn’t mention price, it seems that Buy.com has it for fifty bucks; presumably, eBay would have it for a bit less. Pretty reasonable.
This post typed on a worn-smooth Natural Pro.
I definitely defer to the none more blackness of the Das Keyboard!
When are you people going to learn?
You mean this?
Feh. The 6 is still on the wrong side [/touch typist stickler].
Oh thank god!!! I, too, have been waiting and actually still have three natural keyboard pros for use on various computers. Finally I can upgrade
well. we don’t need no stinkin mouses. but we equally don’t need no stinkin rubber domes, either. i had a NorthGate for years, but it died, and i found the company had too. however, it is still available (i think, hope) as Avant Prime.
for a touch typist, real switches make a bigger difference than the Bend. try it. you’ll like it.
Good show! I personally own a Microsoft Natural Multimedia Keyboard (MNMK) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000AOWVN/104-8953515-7008708?v=glancen=172282%5Fencoding=UTF8v=glance) and I love it. The MNEK4000 seems to be a sleeker version but I will have to wait on getting my hands on it until I get a job (i’m living in a van down by the river this semester).
I’d definately be interested in hearing more on this once you get a good feel and use into it.
If only they released it a few months ago, I just bought the MS Natural Multimedia keyboard (http://www.clubic.com/photo/00032002.jpg)
Which sadly suffers from the standard sub-standard page up/down cluster layout.
Thankfully at home my organomic keyboard is a classic MS one, with a normal page up/down layout
I just got one for work, I just ordered another for “my” computer at home. Great keyboard. I LOVE the fact that the Sleep is no longer on top of the num pad. My current keyboard (a Belkin Ergo [a viable substitute in the quest for MS Ergos, btw] has it there and it kept getting pressed when I adjusted the cheap keyboard drawer I have here at work. Had to rip the keytops off all the keys above the numpad and rig up a scotch tape and plastic spoon MacGiver style cover. The new MS one isn’t as affected so I’m hopeful that I won’t have to mod my pretty new toy. Now if they’d only let me have back my wireless mouse…I’d be happy (they were concerned about it being a security risk…don’t get me started)
Yes! I have been searching everywhere for a black split ergonomic keyboard that didn’t suck and had a standard page-up/page-down cluster. I was extremely excited when I heard about this and now I really want one.
The only ‘bad’ thing about this new and I think the other new MS keyboard offerings is that they are USB only. No PS2 adapters. Since I have multiple systems and use a KVM, my experiences with USB KVMs haven’t always been pleasing. However, outside of having to find a KVM that has a switched hub so that the extra/new keys would work, the Ergonomic 4000 is a keeper and I can sleep better at night knowing that I no longer have to treat my MS Natural Keyboard Pro (and 2 spares) as “The One Keyboard”.
Props to Microsoft to returning some keyboard bliss!
Gotta admit: I adapted to the new missing-insert layout above the cursor keys on the last-generation keyboards.
At first, I couldn’t understand it, but now if I’m less coordinated when trying to Home or End or Delete something, I’m not liable to push Insert, then realize several words later that I’m in Overtype mode. Sigh.
And just when you get used to it… it’s gone.
Please tell me FLock is gone or on by default now, though.
Yes I too would like to hear about the F-Lock. Is this infernal key of doom still in existance?
It’s an excellent keyboard. I posted something similar to what you said a while after receiving mine: a href="http://briandela.com/blog/archive/2005/09/26/781.aspx"http://briandela.com/blog/archive/2005/09/26/781.aspx/a
Thanks for all the info…I found this thread by searching for “Microsoft keyboard caps reverse” and now I’m forced to ask, since the answer wasn’t here (though lotsa great info was!):
Occasionally as I’m typing at Autobahn speed, I have a crash-and-burn when hitting Shift for a capital letter, and then find that my caps are locked though the Caps lock is off…when I hit Caps lock, lower case letters appear. I must be hitting a sequence to reverse the default, but I can’t figure out what it is. Usually I manage to resolve the situation by randomly turbo-hitting all the Southwest and Southeast keys for awhile, but I’d rather know the precise fix…this has GOT to be common knowledge among you Microsoft keyboard elite. Please enlighten me!
Please tell me FLock is gone or on by default now, though.
Flock is still present*, but it’s better behaved. I just powered my system off, then back on again, and Flock stayed set. I remember reading about this before I bought the keyboard, and I can personally verify that it’s true.
- Flock is the crazy remapping of function keys to annoying “user friendly” functions like copy, paste, redo, undo, etc.
Just got this keyboard earlier today. Happy to report that F-Lock is always on by default now! That means us programmers can actually use them as they were meant to be without any hassle.
Also, one terrible thing about previous Microsoft keyboards was that ‘print screen’ was only on when f-lock was off! That meant if you needed to take screenshots while programming, you had to constantly toggle between f-lock. No more!! This keyboard is amazing.
I posted a response on Maltron, Jeff, but your software ate it in the name of fighting abuse. Not gonna retype.